Juan Pablo Chapa (00:00):
What you need to do to prepare yourself for long-term. Is there anything — obviously, you know, Mexico has gotten extremely competitive with companies like Stripe, Lyft, Google really doing engineering pushes there. Is there anything you guys are doing to get to that 500 number you're targeting in the next five years? Like what are you — how are you positioning The Codes? Differentiate yourself from the big players that are arriving?
Carlos Vela (00:00:35):
That's a good question. First, what we are trying to do is we are trying to build these new capabilities, right? Because as a software firm you cannot say “I can do everything,” because — I don't know — maybe the client will be like: “I don't believe you.”
But if you have different capabilities — “Okay, I'm an expert building integrations or Gen AI or with Cloud” — I can sell those services. You know, it's going to be expensive, because that is like a — you're an expert in that specific area. I think that is one thing that we are doing very good right now.
And also we are partnering with different clients. For example, we are building a couple of AI projects in which we help them to build the product. What we also try to — how can I say this? They have a lot of AI engineers, and they are training our engineers with AI. It's like: “I will give you this and you will give me that.”
And that is great for us, because sometimes it is hard to find AI engineers or to train them. Sometimes you can see a job description: “I'm looking for an AI engineer, 10 years of experience.” AI is not 10 years — like Gen AI and stuff like that. So sometimes it's difficult to train, but you can ask for help from different companies that maybe they have that expertise and then can help you.
So I think that the capabilities are great. I think that we are trying to improve our recruitment process, because maybe in the beginning we were more like: “Okay, we need to fulfill this position and we will hire anyone that could fit that position.”
But right now we are looking more for specific skills, because sometimes a senior developer is not about knowing how to code or be the best coder in the world. It's about soft skills. You need to have communication skills. You need to have leadership. You need to know how to communicate your ideas with the client. It's not about coding. That's something the AI cannot do right now.
So we are trying to improve different areas inside the company in order to become that 500 developers in five or seven or three years — I don't know. That's our goal. But yeah, it's going to be hard, but I think that we can do it. We are very confident that The Codes has a lot of potential.
